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Post by seenvic on Jan 18, 2013 15:18:14 GMT -5
Nothing really has changed for me.
I knew (thought) he was doping when I was watching and cheering for him to beat other riders I knew (thought) were doping. IMHO, that was the way this sport was played. It is not the way I'd like to see it played. Most folks I know thought the same thing, or that it was highly likely even if they didn't want to admit it. Now I didn't know and still dont' know the leaders of the UCI, the Tour or the Olympics. But they seem to be the only folks saying "who knew" in this case.
I think Lance was an ass. But in my opinion, he will be the only person to ever win 7 Tours. And in my opinion he won those Tours. I don't care what the UCI or the Tour officials say.
For me the "proof" that most were doping is when they started busting riders who weren't winning. I think all those guys are superior athletes who are separated by very little in terms of potential and ability. As soon as the dope is introduced, the advantage is greater than the small difference in natural ability. Therefore, IMHO, within this small group of superior athletes, anyone finishing IN FRONT of the doper is also doping. In this case, I think almost all of them were doping.
And I don't think Lance was truthful last night concerning the questions of allowing riders on his team who didn't get on the program....the doping program. I think the help Lance win, they had to be doped up too....or the dopers would have dropped them.
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Post by dgaddis1 on Jan 18, 2013 17:28:00 GMT -5
I think it was Bicycling Magazine that had an article about him a few years ago with a chart showing the top 3 riders in each of the 7 Tour's he won. Out of all those guys only 1 or two had not either been convicted of doping or been heavily implicated in one of the various busts.
He is a jerk, and the way he went after people who spoke out about him isn't cool.
And I agree that I didn't believe a whole lot of what he said in the interview, especially any time he adds "ABSOLUTELY NOT" (in most of the clips they showed of him lying he used the same phrase....).
It was lame to "lay down on that one" when asked about the accusations of Betsy Andreau. I thought this was a no holds barred interview??
Overall, with Livestrong, I think he did more good than bad.
Either way, has no effect on how or why I ride my bike!
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