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Post by tzeaser on Sept 17, 2010 13:21:16 GMT -5
I'm planning to ride the lollipop tomorrow morning, starting at WC trailhead, no later than 8:00.
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Post by dgaddis1 on Sept 17, 2010 13:29:25 GMT -5
Assuming WC = Wine Creek, you're talking about doing Wine + Turkey/Modoc loop, known as the Lollipop on our website.
Here comes the confusion...the Bartram/Keg ride has been submitted to IMBA to be named an IMBA Epic, and it's proposed title is....you guessed it, The Lollipop.
According to some of the 'old schoolers' (anyone who's been around longer than me, aka, a whole lota people) the ride you're talking about is called a Creampuff Connector.
I intend on getting the 'correct' names of the connector routes on the site, whenever my FTP stuff works again.
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Post by tzeaser on Sept 17, 2010 13:39:53 GMT -5
Assumption correct. I'm not sure about the "creampuff" part.
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Post by brianW on Sept 17, 2010 13:47:39 GMT -5
I prefer calling it the Dam Keg Creek Dam ride over "the Lollipop"
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Post by dgaddis1 on Sept 17, 2010 13:53:14 GMT -5
I prefer calling it the Dam Keg Creek Dam ride over "the Lollipop" Too long. Thurmond Mini-Epic maybe? With the real/full Thurmond Epic being Bartram/Keg/Mistletoe. To get further off topic - I want to make a second attempt at the T.E. next month sometime.
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Post by seenvic on Sept 17, 2010 14:01:31 GMT -5
Assuming WC = Wine Creek, you're talking about doing Wine + Turkey/Modoc loop, known as the Lollipop on our website. Here comes the confusion...the Bartram/Keg ride has been submitted to IMBA to be named an IMBA Epic, and it's proposed title is....you guessed it, The Lollipop. According to some of the 'old schoolers' (anyone who's been around longer than me, aka, a whole lota people) the ride you're talking about is called a Creampuff Connector. I intend on getting the 'correct' names of the connector routes on the site, whenever my FTP stuff works again. I always thought "Creampuff Connector" was Turkey and Modoc, one time each, and taking the paved roads back around for a 29-31 mile ride depending on which route you took at the end of Modoc. Adding WC to it may be the Creampuff Connector with Wine. Not sure. Ted may know/recall. ------- My take is this. Routes/rides/trails should have unique names that when said mean only that ride/route. Calling something the "lollipop" is like calling Modoc the "out and back". Or calling Horn Creek the "loop". There are many lollipop loops and even more loops. These names are not unique to these trails. That is extent of my point in the other thread. In hindsite, I should have made this point to Paul when he first asked me about it. And I didn't.
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Post by tzeaser on Sept 17, 2010 14:19:48 GMT -5
OK, let me start over. I'm planning to ride a route that starts at the Wine Creek trailhead, continuing on via Key Road/SC23 to Modoc, then the Price's Mill "connector" to Turkey and returning up Wine Creek. I will start no later than 8:00.
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Post by dgaddis1 on Sept 17, 2010 14:24:31 GMT -5
So you're riding Wine - Pavement - Modoc - Pavel - Turkey - Wine That's a good ride. I sent Ted a question about this not too long ago, and this is what he said: Ok you ready? Connecting Modoc and Turkey starting at either and returning via the same trail is "The Connector". Connecting the above two plus Wine Creek and returning via the trail is "The Connector with Special Sauce" Connecting any of the two or three and then returning via the road is qualified as being a "Creampuff Connector". Yes, even adding a third, but not returning via the trail qualifies the ride as "Creampuff" seeing as the return trip via pavel is worse than the trail itself. I know cause I've bailed in that direction before and learned my lesson the hard way.
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Post by seenvic on Sept 17, 2010 14:32:01 GMT -5
Connecting any of the two or three and then returning via the road is qualified as being a "Creampuff Connector". Yes, even adding a third, but not returning via the trail qualifies the ride as "Creampuff" seeing as the return trip via pavel is worse than the trail itself. I know cause I've bailed in that direction before and learned my lesson the hard way. [/quote] This part is confusing to me. Not sure what he is saying.
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Post by seenvic on Sept 20, 2010 13:10:45 GMT -5
Tom Z - I should have put this in your head before you went out......did you see the flags I tied at the end of Modoc leading up to FS 632! They are pink and orange flags that should be flying together from the same tree/limb. I am thinking they may get pulled down in this area by hunters.
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Post by tzeaser on Sept 20, 2010 14:48:34 GMT -5
Yes, I recall some flagging where the trail turns away from the power lines to 632.
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Post by seenvic on Sept 20, 2010 14:58:39 GMT -5
How was the ride?
You do it alone?
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Post by tzeaser on Sept 20, 2010 20:19:08 GMT -5
It was a great day to ride. At 4-20, it was a little slower than I would have liked. I was solo and surprised to not see anyone on all 3 trails. The trails are all good, but if I were going to do any last minute maintenance, it would probably be Wine.
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Post by Mark Y on Sept 20, 2010 21:01:39 GMT -5
Tom Z - I should have put this in your head before you went out......did you see the flags I tied at the end of Modoc leading up to FS 632! They are pink and orange flags that should be flying together from the same tree/limb. I am thinking they may get pulled down in this area by hunters. Jon T decided to put a piece of tape across the trail to force people to take a left. We did that yesterday.
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Post by ted on Sept 21, 2010 6:16:23 GMT -5
Connecting any of the two or three and then returning via the road is qualified as being a "Creampuff Connector". Yes, even adding a third, but not returning via the trail qualifies the ride as "Creampuff" seeing as the return trip via pavel is worse than the trail itself. I know cause I've bailed in that direction before and learned my lesson the hard way. This part is confusing to me. Not sure what he is saying. [/quote] I'm saying anytime one begins a trail and finishes via road or vice versa, then that constitutes the ride as "Creampuff".
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