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Post by neal1975 on Jun 26, 2010 11:19:54 GMT -5
Anyone try to ride today or know how the trail is looking, or how bad it got hit from the storms last night? got like 1-2 inches in martinez  |
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Post by azdrawdy on Jun 26, 2010 12:04:36 GMT -5
Keg and Petersburg were both in perfect shape this morning. Tacky, moist soil. No mud. Seems to me that FATS, at a mature 4 years old, would be similar. H E dbl hockey sticks...We're at a six or seven inch deficit for the year. You would think that soil would be happy to do something with a couple of thunderstorms.
MD
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Post by brianW on Jun 26, 2010 19:59:34 GMT -5
rode Tower and Big Rock this morning. Just a few very small areas that had water and not a real concern. Just wish someone would clear the webs before I ride  |
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Post by seenvic on Jun 26, 2010 21:43:48 GMT -5
Why does Tsali have mud holes galore and Modoc, Turkey Creek, Keg Creek, Lick Fork, HKSP don't?
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Post by safetybreak on Jun 26, 2010 21:52:19 GMT -5
Why does Tsali have mud holes galore and Modoc, Turkey Creek, Keg Creek, Lick Fork, HKSP don't? Traffic?  |
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Post by kazowie on Jun 26, 2010 22:08:06 GMT -5
Rode Brown Wave and Skinny before last light tonight. The trail was looking good and feeling firm. There were a couple of spots which were muddy requiring a hop or walk through (still rideable, but just to keep from trashing the trail).
BTW - what are those insects that briefly light up, emitting a red flash?
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Post by Mark Y on Jun 26, 2010 22:12:46 GMT -5
rode Tower and Big Rock this morning. Just a few very small areas that had water and not a real concern. Just wish someone would clear the webs before I ride Tole JT this morning that I wager Tower and BR would be OK. FYI, I got rid of a spider with a body the size of a cherry Thurs morning on Tower. That sucker got me unclipped and wiping myself! The doggone web was like strands of wet rubber; I felt like I had pine tar on me. I had just as soon encountered a rattlesnake; I would have be a whole lot less unnerved. |
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Post by Angela on Jun 26, 2010 22:31:41 GMT -5
Kazowie it sounds like you are talking about a staple in the sultry southern summers - the lightning bug or firefly. Generally the insects glow more yellow than red and they come out right around dusk and normally are not visible once it is truly dark outside. The flashing is due to a process called bioluminescense. Kids who grow up in the south generally have spent plenty of time catching "lightning bugs" in a jar to watch them flash and then let them go. North of us near Brevard, NC in Dupont State Forest (a fun mountain biking or hiking destination  there are some fireflies that simply have a "light" that stays on and is blue in color they are called Blue Ghost Fireflies - haven't made it up to the ranger walks to see them in early June but have always wanted to! |
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Post by brianW on Jun 27, 2010 6:52:56 GMT -5
Why does Tsali have mud holes galore and Modoc, Turkey Creek, Keg Creek, Lick Fork, HKSP don't? because of horse traffic? equestrians and mt biker on the trail when its wet? |
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Post by breynolds on Jun 27, 2010 7:22:12 GMT -5
Did it rain on any of the local trails last night? I live near Daniel Field and we got none here, but when I got home from work last night the radar showed some green over the lake and the FATS area. Just wanted to check before I make a trip out.
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Post by azdrawdy on Jun 27, 2010 11:31:24 GMT -5
Did it rain on any of the local trails last night? I live near Daniel Field and we got none here, but when I got home from work last night the radar showed some green over the lake and the FATS area. Just wanted to check before I make a trip out. It hammered HKSP and Elijah Clark last night. I mean rivers and flooded ditches. When I got home at midnight, it was bone dry here (a couple miles from FATS)... DS and GW were perfect today. Keg and Bartram perfect yesterday. FWIW. MD |
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Post by breynolds on Jun 27, 2010 11:42:37 GMT -5
Cool, thanks! I think I'll head to FATS this afternoon then.
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Post by kazowie on Jun 27, 2010 11:43:33 GMT -5
Kazowie it sounds like you are talking about a staple in the sultry southern summers - the lightning bug or firefly. Generally the insects glow more yellow than red and they come out right around dusk and normally are not visible once it is truly dark outside. The flashing is due to a process called bioluminescense. Kids who grow up in the south generally have spent plenty of time catching "lightning bugs" in a jar to watch them flash and then let them go. North of us near Brevard, NC in Dupont State Forest (a fun mountain biking or hiking destination there are some fireflies that simply have a "light" that stays on and is blue in color they are called Blue Ghost Fireflies - haven't made it up to the ranger walks to see them in early June but have always wanted to! Thanks Angela. I have seen firefly's before, but not in the northern hemisphere. They were only quick flashes, at first I wasn't sure if I was even more unfit I realized! It added a great part to the ride, next time I'll bring a jar ;D |
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Post by seenvic on Jun 28, 2010 13:14:28 GMT -5
Why does Tsali have mud holes galore and Modoc, Turkey Creek, Keg Creek, Lick Fork, HKSP don't? Traffic? Correct. Managing the use at FATS has always been about controlling the traffic on the really bad days. And perhaps getting folks to police themselves on the so/so days. This weekend....IMHO.....FATS probably took a beating in some isolated places. Not issues we will see next week, but ones we will see next winter and the winter after that. But it is a MTB trail and one could not convince me that it should have been closed either day of this weekend. It will always get alot of traffic because it is popular. People like it. Most probably thought it was perfect this weekend. I thought it was perfect for riding. Traction was great. Didn't have any bad muddy spots and only two places that I rode thru that could even be considered a minor issue. I saw no major issues. But all that said, the big mud holes don't all get formed on the big wet days. They start small. On days like this weekend. Not really wet, only kinda soft, but not really solid. Alot of traffic. Hundreds of riders. Each one pushing down on the tread an inmeasurable amount. Collectively not creating anything anyone will notice in the Summer of 2010. But it will creep up on us as these places are now primed to hold water. And when the water comes, it will stay there. And as more riders go thru it and around it, the hole will get deeper and wider until a mountain biker fixes it. Now replay that 100-500 times and get ready to do some work this winter. That is way I see it. Nothing wrong with it. Others may see it differenly and that is fine. It is a mountain bike trail. This is what happens to them from this much use. As long as riders are willing to work on the trails, it is all good and will work out fine. |
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there are some fireflies that simply have a "light" that stays on and is blue in color they are called Blue Ghost Fireflies - haven't made it up to the ranger walks to see them in early June but have always wanted to!