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Post by lowelldorn on Mar 4, 2008 10:32:56 GMT -5
I rode Turkey 3/2. Sawed up large pine down in 1st mile and a smaller tree hanging over. Trail is clear and in good shape. Last 2 miles need mowing - bamboo is encroaching. Burned out bridge near end needs replacing.
Lowell
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Post by jtaylor on May 2, 2008 11:50:15 GMT -5
Rode Turkey last night, 5/1. Non-rider trees down at 1.5, 2.1, 3.3, and 3.9 miles from Key Bridge. Turned around at the 5 mile rest stop. The controlled burn did not cause any damage that I could tell. The trail could use a DR mower on the first mile, a few areas that didn't get burned, and after the rest stop.
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Post by EdgeE on May 2, 2008 13:48:05 GMT -5
Sorry I missed out on the ride, hope ya'll had fun. Wine Creek is also in need of the DR mower. Could not hike with my kids due to Stinging Nettle & ticks last sunday.
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Post by flyingbison on May 3, 2008 14:15:09 GMT -5
As mentioned under the Wine Creek topic, I rode Turkey and Wine today. While Turkey need mowing, primarily after the 5 mile mark through the extension, Wine is in far worse shape.
I concur with the previous poster about the trees being down.
Also, I investigated Michaels idea of adding a re-route around the head of the ditch with the burned bridge and it looks easily doable, especially since USFS bulldozed a fireline parrallel to the feature on the back side that could be turned into trail.
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Post by Angela on May 4, 2008 7:59:18 GMT -5
We cannot simply reroute the trail on USFS land - that is not allowed. We have some lumber that is from the USFS for some bridge building projects and depending on the magnitude of the bridge in question some of the lumber might can be used to rebuild that bridge - possibly during the scheduled work party if we have enough volunteers to do the sawyer work required on downed trees, the mowing scheduled on Wine and Turkey, etc. The DR mowers basically beat and vibrate the heck out of an operator so we generally utilize an operator for for an hour or a little over and then need a replacement operator to handle the next section. The Wine-Turkey Mowathon each year requires a large commitment of time and people! Sign up and encourage others to sign up once you see the work party posted.  |
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Post by flyingbison on May 4, 2008 19:23:02 GMT -5
I was referring to the practicality of the idea, not necessarily the legality.
If a plausible re-route is proposed to USFS, using an existing feature (bulldozer road built for the burn) around the damaged bridge, it has a higher chance of being approved, since a very small area of the forest would be affected (750 - 1000 lf on the east of the drainage feature).
Further, it should be noted that there is a re-route (official or not) already in place about 200 feet north of where the remnants of the former bridge are located, and has been there since the before 49er...
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Post by azdrawdy on May 4, 2008 20:17:15 GMT -5
EP is one of us, has been on an untold number of sweat parties with us, and is actually using common sense here.  Rebuilding this bridge will require the same workparty effort that was required to rebuild the long bridge at Horn Creek two years ago. The stringers are burned out. So, new stringers need to be brought in, then new decking material. The USFS is more interested in forest management (as was so eloquently discussed in a separate thread) and burning brush than maintaining trails. Agree with EP that a reroute has already been established since there IS NO OTHER WAY TO CROSS and a better one exists perhaps 200 feet above this one. The issue of whether the USFS will "approve" a reroute is not too darn relevant. They obviously are not interested in the replacement of the charcoaled stringers. I also don't see a trail being closed due to the fact that the public needs to find a safer way around a burned bridge. The perfect response: Let us volunteers once again spend days fixing a burned out bridge. Gee, there's probably 13 of us now, right? The imperfect response: Notice where the rerouted trail exists now. Make it a trail since there's presently no way to cross now that is "legal". |
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Post by azdrawdy on May 4, 2008 20:41:02 GMT -5
Well, we camped at Modoc and headed out on the mountain bikes Saturday morning. We entered TC at the cul-de-sac and immediately ran into some very lost adventure racers. We continued and noticed how overgrown TC has become. The trail actually gets nearly lost amongst the long canes. The first 2.5 miles (remember, we were not riding from the bridge) were tough going. The next five miles, until you get to the bridge, were very rideable, as long as you kept an eye out for the downed trees and tons of debris in the trail (small limbs, branches, etc). DW bent her derailleur hanger but we managed to press on. Ran into Bill S. manning a zip-line, and got tangled up in some stinging nettle  We'll hopefully get a good turnout for upcoming workparties. The trails need it! BTW, the ticks were horrendous! I leaned my bike against a tree to do some bike maintenance and thought the tree's bark was moving! WHOA! Had to pick'em off the legs back at the campsite. Time to get the razor out... |
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Post by flyingbison on May 5, 2008 18:50:01 GMT -5
Michael - thanks for 'outing' me ;D
I must have just missed you guys on Saturday. I came through (from Key Bridge) around 11:15 and looped out the gravel roads around the the 283 end of Wine...
Saw a couple of groups of Adventure racers as well, chatted briefly with two guys from Greenville who seemed pretty cool...
Tick count is now up to six (found another of the little beasties attached to my neck after I got home and showered...) .
L8r
EP
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