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Post by txr on Apr 19, 2010 21:49:40 GMT -5
Went and watched Drew Jordan and some of the local BMX guys ride the pumptrack. I rode it a few days ago and tonight I got to see how it should be ridden. These guys were taking to the air and running some speed on the track. That is after they shaped, packed and watered the whole thing down. Awesome job guys! Here are a few picks of the action. Sorry, other than Drew I do not know the names of the guys riding. Oh yeah, the kid with the helmet can move on that track. He was getting some speed. Enjoy Tom    |
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Post by EdgeE on Apr 20, 2010 9:00:06 GMT -5
Nice!
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Post by dgaddis1 on Apr 20, 2010 9:32:55 GMT -5
Those are great shots Tom. The few pics I tried to take all came out blurry...the light was already too low. Took one video, it's okay I think, I'll try and get it posted tonight.
The guy in the last pic, his name is Thomas I think (notice that he has no brakes....). No idea what the kid's name is, but he was flying. He was way faster than everyone else around the track. It was cool.
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Post by justjoe on Apr 21, 2010 19:50:52 GMT -5
I also notice he has no helmet. Should be a rule.
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Post by drewjordan on Apr 22, 2010 6:14:21 GMT -5
Thanks for coming out Tom! Sorry we didn't ride as much as expected. Could've had some great shots of us digging though! LOL Like the pics!
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Post by justme on Apr 22, 2010 8:13:54 GMT -5
I also notice he has no helmet. Should be a rule. Is a rule, law actually, for 16 and under. Let the adult with no brakes decide if he wants a helmet or not. Hopefully he'll decide before his brain is mushed not after. Otherwise call: PARKS, RECREATION AND LEISURE SERVICES Activities Coordinator 803-441-4311 |
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Post by dgaddis1 on Apr 22, 2010 8:59:01 GMT -5
I also notice he has no helmet. Should be a rule. Is a rule, law actually, for 16 and under. Isn't that for riding on the road? I agree that everyone should wear a helmet. But I also know some people just wont. Look at all the idiots riding motorcycles in SC without helmets. Now that's stupid. |
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Post by justme on Apr 22, 2010 20:23:20 GMT -5
You may state differences between "road" and "off-road" but the law doesn't. That mentality is why there is a law.
What's the difference between hitting your head on hard dirt and hitting it on asphalt? Having a dirty head full of mush or a clean head full of mush.
Do you ride without a helmet?
Who cares what others do. What do you do?
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Post by dgaddis1 on Apr 23, 2010 6:12:29 GMT -5
You may state differences between "road" and "off-road" but the law doesn't. That mentality is why there is a law. What's the difference between hitting your head on hard dirt and hitting it on asphalt? Having a dirty head full of mush or a clean head full of mush. Do you ride without a helmet? Who cares what others do. What do you do? Interestingly enough, you're right, the law doesn't make any difference between the two. In fact, there are no bicycle helmet laws in South Carolina at all, regardless of age or the presence of pavement. www.bhsi.org/mandator.htmwww.scdot.org/getting/pdfs/bike_laws.pdfNot trying to be a jerk, I really do think it's interesting that SC has no helmet laws at all, even for children. I wear a helmet. I think everyone else should too. |
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Post by justme on Apr 23, 2010 7:26:42 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, you're right, the law doesn't make any difference between the two. In fact, there are no bicycle helmet laws in South Carolina at all, regardless of age or the presence of pavement. Not trying to be a jerk, I really do think it's interesting that SC has no helmet laws at all, even for children. I wear a helmet. I think everyone else should too. No jerkness received. Population control comes in many different forms. |
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Post by dgaddis1 on Apr 23, 2010 7:32:53 GMT -5
No jerkness received. Population control comes in many different forms. +1 |
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Post by oddcouple on Apr 23, 2010 13:38:18 GMT -5
I will not argue if it is dumb not to wear a helmet, but I believe in
FREEDOM OF CHOICE.
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Post by seenvic on Apr 23, 2010 14:40:47 GMT -5
I will not argue if it is dumb not to wear a helmet, but I believe in FREEDOM OF CHOICE. If I owned the facility I would make it a rule to wear a helmet. From there, one can choose whether or not to ride at this facility. No reason to argue over the merits of wearing a helmet. Reasonable people respect the rights of the property owner to set the rules on it's property. Reasonable people will allow others to do stupid things if said reasonable person can not be held liable for the stupid actions of others. |
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Post by quiver on Apr 23, 2010 15:21:43 GMT -5
As soon as someone gets hurt at the pump track by not wearing a helmet, then sues the city of NA for not having a "wear a helmet" sign and takes my hard earned tax money... thats were Freedom of choice ends for me... public property changes things IMO
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Post by ted on Apr 24, 2010 9:10:05 GMT -5
I'm sure the city has it figured out.
It is, after all, on the property of the athletic area where people are putting themselves at risk all the time. Including the Greeneway.
If it means that much to you, you can attend one of the city council meetings or call the parks dept.
Maybe Drew can give some insight into this situation? He seems to be connected the most to the people/persons in question .
Population control....+2
You've got to keep in mind that you're an old coot mountain biker trying to get younger, head strong, more virile people that take part in a high risk activity and could care less what you think to wear helmets.
Also, you're battling a culture that doesn't take safety precautions.
Not me. Only kid I worry about wearing a helmet is my own.
How about we back off the hate a little on the forum and let nature take it's course?
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Post by brianW on Apr 24, 2010 11:48:12 GMT -5
Freedom of Choice comes with individual responsibility.
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Post by chip on Apr 26, 2010 3:30:53 GMT -5
Helmets are not a end-all-be all of safety.
I ride at about 10% my potential pace without a helmet. I have to, because I can't afford to get injured due to my job.
While I consider myself an old-school lame rider, I've been riding a lonnnnnng time. I don't need someone to arbitrarily decide I should wear a helmet if all I want to to do is pump around that track for exercise. It's not the same as riding a motorcycle at 45 mph, in traffic.
I have a helmet, and I wear it at times - usually at FATS, since I don't ride as much as I'd like I don't have everything memorized. The downside is that I also tend to start pushing that 10% up to 15%, 20... maybe more. So that actually runs counter to the reasons for wearing the helmet in my book; but for the oddball offcamber turn that covered up with wet leaves that catches one out - I have it on.
But let me add a point: my helmet is a full face Gyro. I don't get the idea of wearing a helmet that leaves the front of your face open. In fact, to me, it's kind of ridiculous.
Another point: if everyone wore helmets while driving their car, head injuries from auto accidents would drop fantastically. BUT - most people take the calculated risk.
I don't ride road bikes because IMO it's too risky. On the other hand, I'll ride the Riverview pump track without a helmet because I have calculated my risk to be nominal based on *my own knowledge of my own skill set*. Geez, I hope somebody doesn't mess this up making helmets an issue; this is a cool thing for North Augusta. A kid will get hurt there no doubt - but a kid will get hurt falling out of a tree, off a skateboard...
Aside: a BMXer falling on his head from 15 feet with one of those quasi-skateboard helmets is probably not a lot better off. Wear a dirt bike DOT/Snell rated helmet if you're serious.
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Post by justme on Apr 26, 2010 6:24:29 GMT -5
Geez, I hope somebody doesn't mess this up making helmets an issue; Maybe if we quit beating this dead horse it won't get messed up. The helmet debate can go on until infinity, and even with scientific evidence presented, people will still debate it. So, to keep this from going on and on, how about everyone who wants to wear a helmet wear one and those who don't....then don't. I'll call the ambulance for you, but they'll have to come drag your asphalt out of the woods. |
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Post by justme on Apr 26, 2010 6:32:35 GMT -5
Geez, I hope somebody doesn't mess this up making helmets an issue; Maybe if we quit beating this dead horse it won't get messed up. The helmet debate can go on until infinity, and even with scientific evidence presented, people will still debate it. So, to keep this from going on and on, how about everyone who wants to wear a helmet wear one and those who don't....then don't. I'll call the ambulance for you, but they'll have to come drag your asphalt out of the woods. Also, no one has stated any facts on this subject. Just opinions and personal predictions. Can't anyone come up with any points that are not based on loose ideas and assumptions. BTW, this forum thread is supposed to be about the pumptrack, not helmet use. How about a big thumbs up for one of the largest threadjacks in history.  |
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Post by gagecreasy on Apr 26, 2010 7:01:01 GMT -5
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