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Post by seenvic on Apr 29, 2010 14:22:31 GMT -5
Birds are singing, the grass is growing. About it.
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Post by yetichick on Apr 29, 2010 16:43:48 GMT -5
We have put that first bridge back in place how many times? We need to come up with a way to put it back permanently, but I don't know how. Water and flooding is a pretty powerful force. Last year we were out working on Wine, and came across some hikers. They live in the area and hike Wine quite frequently and do some lopping, etc., on the trail. They said they were very thankful for our organized mtb group because without us there wouldn't be a trail. It takes a group of people and the right tools to keep Wine open.
We had a lot of rain from December - March. We had thought about going in and doing some work on Wine several times, but then another storm would roll in, and the trail was flooded--again!
In January, February and March, a lot of volunteer hours are put in at FATS. It is a lot easier to work on that trail during those months when the ground is wet than when it is dry and hard as a rock.
Second biggest reason Wine hasn't been worked on: IMBA Summit. A lot of hours were put into the Canal Trail, FATS, Bartram, Wildwood Connector, and then the pump track. We have a great group of volunteers, and a lot of people have been working hard. A lot of work has been accomplished!!!!
The Summit is next week. Then we can get back to normal!!! LOL
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Post by wooglin on Apr 29, 2010 19:23:09 GMT -5
Missed the last couple of meetings, any idea what we are going to do with this trail? I recommend riding it.
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Post by dparrott on Apr 29, 2010 20:58:27 GMT -5
Back to normal - yeah! Think my wife just wants me to take the sleeping bag and camp out by the trails!!
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Post by syncrodan on May 2, 2010 16:16:09 GMT -5
Rode wine turkey modoc today. The grass and stingers are turning it into Cambodia as usual. Modoc was the best condition of the three, wine was all sticks in the spokes. Still rideable
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Post by Mark Y on May 2, 2010 17:06:31 GMT -5
With respect to putting the bridge back in place and anchoring it.... This is just ideas on my part that may very well have been tried and found impractical; or have other good reasons some of you know of that make it unworkable. (in other words, no sarcastic shots please)
When we put the 4 mile bridge back into place on Modoc, it was clear that the bridge had floated instead of washed since it dislodged towards upstream. I was thinking about what could be done with bridges like that which have "telephone pole" stringers. It seems to me that if you used 3/4" re-bar and staked each end in an "X" pattern; driving the re-bar into the ground a couple of feet, it would anchor it against both lateral and vertical force. If it floods hard enough to wash it away or if a a big tree or something breaks it up, there is little you can do short of building it with steel and driving piles into the ground. I think a couple of portable drills, a 3/4" auger bit, a claw hammer for removing and replacing end boards, and a 2lb sledge for driving the 8 pieces of 36" re-bar would do the trick.
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Post by Mark Y on May 4, 2010 12:17:12 GMT -5
How far by foot are the two bridges pictured above?
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Post by seenvic on May 4, 2010 15:29:18 GMT -5
How far by foot are the two bridges pictured above? First one is 1/8 - 1/4 mile from Key Bridge. Second one....not so sure. I'd guess it is in the first mile and a half from Key Br. Would be good to figure out where this one is in terms of the gas lines. If on the north side of the gas line, then it is best to get on trail via gas line and then go north.
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Post by Mark Y on May 4, 2010 18:43:46 GMT -5
I'll go survey it in the next day or two and get some ideas.
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Post by wooglin on May 4, 2010 19:24:52 GMT -5
Second one....not so sure. I'd guess it is in the first mile and a half from Key Br. Would be good to figure out where this one is in terms of the gas lines. If on the north side of the gas line, then it is best to get on trail via gas line and then go north. I think I checked my odometer and was at about 2 miles. Definitely past the gas line heading in from Key Bridge. Using Google earth I put it at S 394633 E 3742647.
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Post by Mark Y on May 9, 2010 20:22:33 GMT -5
I went and looked at the first bridge and I don't think much can be done with it intact. There a couple of trees we might could get a line between and try to lift it, but that thing weighs lord knows what considering it has three telephone pole stringers. I think the best bet is to knock the boards off, wrestle with the poles one at the time, then nail everything back down. Maybe someone else can go take a look and give a better analysis.
I didn't make it to the second one, the %$#$% nettle was eating me alive; but judging from Wooglin's pics, disassembly and rebuild is likely the plan with that one too if the stringers can be dragged back in place.
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Post by EdgeE on Jul 12, 2010 9:17:32 GMT -5
Tried to venture out last night after a storm rolled thru in the afternoon, and well, I didn't make it to the trail. There was a large tree blocking Key Rd. I turned around & tried Cold Springs. Many limbs & tree tops in the road, so I turned around again & headed for the gravel roads of Horn creek. I was chased off the lake by the storm in the afternoon, but not much happened in Edgefield. From what I saw last night, it must have been a rough windy one.
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