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Post by cwwalker on Nov 16, 2015 20:58:01 GMT -5
I'm currently using a Maxxis Ikon 29 x 2.25 tubeless. I've tried multiple different pressures. It works fairly well, but for climbing in areas like FATS, Boyd Pond, etc, it just doesn't cut it traction wise. This tire is fairly worn and could use to be replaced anyway.
Does anyone have any suggestions for a tire meeting this criteria that would excel in an area like FATS?
Thanks in advance.
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Post by dgaddis1 on Nov 18, 2015 15:21:37 GMT -5
I'm currently using a Maxxis Ikon 29 x 2.25 tubeless. I've tried multiple different pressures. It works fairly well, but for climbing in areas like FATS, Boyd Pond, etc, it just doesn't cut it traction wise. This tire is fairly worn and could use to be replaced anyway. Does anyone have any suggestions for a tire meeting this criteria that would excel in an area like FATS? Thanks in advance. The Ikon is the go-to tire for a LOT of local riders, and it works very well all over the southeast. Try and keep your weight back so there's more weight on the tire. A lot of people tend to get way over the front tire when out of the saddle climbing, and doing so greatly reduces traction. You have to find that sweet spot where there's enough weight on the rear tire for traction, and enough on the front wheel to keep it on the ground. It could just be time for a new one if it's worn out. What pressures have you tried, and how much do you weigh?
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Post by cwwalker on Nov 21, 2015 13:47:08 GMT -5
I am 190lbs, and have tried 24-30 lbs. I am currently using 28 rear and 26 front, on Stans Arch wheels setup tubeless. The Ikon is definitely worn, perhaps it needs to be replaced. I use clipless pedals and pull up on the handlebars putting my weight towards the rear of the bike and my pedals. The Ikon has great traction, but it seems it just can't pull it off I'm really pedaling hard.
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Post by dgaddis1 on Nov 23, 2015 8:20:02 GMT -5
I am 190lbs, and have tried 24-30 lbs. I am currently using 28 rear and 26 front, on Stans Arch wheels setup tubeless. The Ikon is definitely worn, perhaps it needs to be replaced. I use clipless pedals and pull up on the handlebars putting my weight towards the rear of the bike and my pedals. The Ikon has great traction, but it seems it just can't pull it off I'm really pedaling hard. Yeah sounds like it's just worn out, your tire pressures sound right on. Also try and smooth out your pedal stroke when going hard...I know I tend to get sloppy and pedal squares instead of circles when really pushing it up a climb!
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Post by cwwalker on Nov 23, 2015 14:59:31 GMT -5
I am 190lbs, and have tried 24-30 lbs. I am currently using 28 rear and 26 front, on Stans Arch wheels setup tubeless. The Ikon is definitely worn, perhaps it needs to be replaced. I use clipless pedals and pull up on the handlebars putting my weight towards the rear of the bike and my pedals. The Ikon has great traction, but it seems it just can't pull it off I'm really pedaling hard. Yeah sounds like it's just worn out, your tire pressures sound right on. Also try and smooth out your pedal stroke when going hard...I know I tend to get sloppy and pedal squares instead of circles when really pushing it up a climb!
I rode out at Modoc on Sunday with a CST Ouster 2x25 front and rear, and started off at 28front and 30 rear. Lowered the pressure probably 7 or 8 times throughout the ride and never got to a pressure that was comfortable (the bike is fully rigid) and had confidence inspiring traction.
I ordered two Ikon 2.35 3C / EXO / TR and will try running them at lower pressure and see how I like them.
I have noticed the photos of the Ikons online show sort of a wear bar in the middle of the tread knobs, that isn't visible on mine. Must be worn out.
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Post by cwwalker on Nov 24, 2015 19:46:11 GMT -5
Maybe I am old school, or maybe I am just a crappy rider, but I ordered some Ritchey WCS stubby bar ends. I just can't climb worth a damn without them. It might have something to do with my rear traction issues. I normally stand up and pull up on the barends to transfer my weight to the rear tire when climbing.
I also like narrow 580mm bars, flat...none of these new wide riser bars feel right to me.
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Post by brando on Nov 30, 2015 12:45:26 GMT -5
The Ikon 2.35 is my goto rear tire also. But this time of year I switch to a Specialized Ground control rear. Rode this weekend at FATS and noticed some slippage so I'll probably switch em out this week.
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Post by cwwalker on Dec 3, 2015 7:27:59 GMT -5
The Ikon 2.35 is my goto rear tire also. But this time of year I switch to a Specialized Ground control rear. Rode this weekend at FATS and noticed some slippage so I'll probably switch em out this week. I've got them installed and put on some Ergon grips with bar ends. Going to give them a try this weekend. Currently running 18 in the front and 20 in the rear. Do the higher volume tires require less pressure?
Thanks
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Post by cwwalker on Dec 3, 2015 7:33:24 GMT -5
I also wanted to point out that the Ikon 2.2 and 2.35 shouldn't even be called the same name. The only similarity is the tread style. The knobs on the 2.35 are bigger and deeper, and the differences go far beyond just the difference in width. The 2.35 has a much higher volume. It seems I can run it at much lower pressures as well. We will have to see how the trails go this weekend.
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Post by cwwalker on Dec 5, 2015 18:15:39 GMT -5
Rode at FATS today, Brown Wave, then Skinny, then Great Wall with the Ikon 2.35's, front and rear. Front was 20psi, rear was 18psi. They transformed the bike completely. It rolls so much faster, absorbs impacts better, and the traction, well..it was sticky the entire time, even on wet roots and leaves.
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Post by brando on Dec 5, 2015 20:14:08 GMT -5
I'm 220 and run 23ish in the front and a few psi more in the rear 2.35 ikon. I've got a continental X King 2.4 up front that I really like. The 2.2 Ikon is good when FATS dries up. I have bad luck with tires sealing so when I have a combo that's holding air and performing well I stick with it. The sealant gets expensive when I was trying to match my tires to the conditions.
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Post by cwwalker on Dec 6, 2015 9:49:36 GMT -5
That was a beer typo. I ran 20 in the rear tire and 18 in the front. The last half mile to the south trail head I stopped (I had brought a digital gauge and a pump in case I needed to add air) and let out air to make the front 16 and the rear 18. It bounced off roots a bit less and I still don't feel like I could have rimmed it even on the hardest drop. I was 183lbs this morning.
Very happy with the 2.35's though. They roll so much faster than what I accustomed too. My 26'er has been rocking WTB Velociraptors for a LONG time...so this whole 29er and Tubeless this is new to me in the past few months.
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