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Post by ted on Feb 1, 2010 9:14:13 GMT -5
Got some in at the shop in case anyone wants to try it. I got some for myself......very nice. FYI It turns foamy as opposed to just liquid and helps keep sealant in place as well as helps protects sidewalls better.
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Post by dgaddis1 on Feb 1, 2010 10:37:45 GMT -5
I used this on my new bike. The foaming action is nice for sure, makes set up very easy. No need to do the "shake 'n lay" like with Stans. But, it also doesn't seem to seal as quickly as Stans. My rear tire had some pin holes on the sidewall, and it shot out for a while before it would seal. And often times the seal wouldn't hold for long. The tires didn't hold air, they'd go flat after a few days. I added some Slime automotive sealant, and now the tires seem to be air tight. The Slime has lots of little chunks of rubber and some fibers that will help plug holes, something the Caffe Latex doesn't (Stans has some chunks of stuff to help seal holes). Supposedly the Slime will extend the life of Stans from about 6months to a year, not sure if it'll do the same with the Caffe Latex...I'll let yall know in a few months.
After seeing the way it would stream out of those pinholes in the rear tire, I have my doubts about it's sealing ability, especially if the tire had a big puncture (those pinholes were tiny). But, the addition of the Slime should (hopefully) help.
Also, in theory, the foaming action will seal sidewall holes. If can seal holes at all.
Reading review online, some people love the stuff. Others say it sucks balls. I haven't had a flat since adding the Slime.
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Post by ted on Feb 1, 2010 13:09:02 GMT -5
Thanks for the feed back on your experience. I've used mine on a new set of tires and have had no problems from start to finish on installation. I think that its success varies from tire to tire. I recently put Stans in some new Maxxis Ignitors and had a heck of a time sealing it up. Keep in mind that were standard tires and not tubeless. Using tubeless specific tires pretty much does away with the little hole seal problem. Are you using standard or Tubeless tires? Did you only have problems during initial installation or has it continued beyond that point? One more question. Won't adding Stans and Slime add up pretty quickly in the weight dept? Might as well use tubeless tires if it gets too high. I know I'd hate having a heavy glob of slime waiting for me in the bottom of my tire as opposed to a pool of stans. With having done numerous tire setups with stans and no one having any sustained issues, other than replacment every 6 or so months, how come you've had to go to a combination? I'm guessing you tire is standard?
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Post by dgaddis1 on Feb 1, 2010 16:26:44 GMT -5
I'm using Stan's rims with non-tubeless tires (Kenda Small Block 8 in the back, Continental Mountain King in the front).
The tires sealed most of the way pretty quicky with the Caffe Latex, but the pin holes took a while to seal. And until I added some Slime, the tires would go flat over night (I waiting about three weeks before adding the slime).
I haven't used a Stans/Slime combo yet, just Stans by itself. If I did mix them, I'd reduce the amount of Stans, and make up the difference with the Slime.
Surprisingly the CaffeLatex and Slime mix pretty well, not like oil and water.
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Post by DK on Feb 1, 2010 21:50:01 GMT -5
I use Stan's with non-tubeless tires and rims (with rimstrip kit) and it works great as is. Found a thread on MTBR about using mixes and homebrews, but I'm not convinced that there would really be an advantage. As a rule, I only have to reinstall the Stan's once a year. Only time I had a problem with it drying out was one summer when I was too lazy to take the bike out of the car for a couple of days. I came out of work to find the bike with two flat tires, and no Stan's. Duh. LOL! Here's the thread on MTBR about the homebrew stuff: forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=406115I'll most likely stick with straight Stan's until I have any real problems with it drying up often.
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Post by csratrailblazer on Nov 4, 2010 23:02:49 GMT -5
Stand fixes leaks that DT Swiss, Caffe' Latex, and Victoria sealants cannot. Do not waist time or money on the other CRAP
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